I see the industry standard wall for most of North America circa 2015 being 2x6 advanced frame at 24-inch centers with exterior foam insulating sheathing and a spray applied cavity insulation lined with gypsum board (Photograph 5). I also calculated the cost difference to build that house with 2x6 instead of 2x4 construction. The frame wall is undergoing another revolution (okay, it just seems that way because not much has changed in 150 years) a 2x6 frame at 24-inch centers and single top and bottom plates is likely to replace the conventional 2x4 frame. You are telling me there are no leaks showing under the home so that cant be it. The 1950s through 1970s. She is especially concerned about damage to the electical system.PaulI think this is getting beyond what a homeowner should try on their own. Cavity wall insulation was first introduced during the 1970s, becoming compulsory in the 1990s for all new UK buildings. TammieI have a 1998 1676 Fleetwood mobile home, can I raise the ceiling in the master bedroom and if so how? The history of construction is as old as the history of humanity. Trim strips can cover a multitude of things quickly and cheaply. I am hoping to hang something from the ceiling of my 1997 Fleetwood mobile home. The interior wall it is hanging on is situated just a few inches off the centerline of my home. To the extent you can, keeping the weight closer to the centerline of the home would reduce the load. After steadily rising through the end of 2020 and the beginning of 2021, lumber prices skyrocketed up to an all-time high in May, driven by historic levels of demand and mounting supply chain issues.. And it gives extra room in the walls for insulation, plumbing pipes and electrical fixtures. Wow. You may have good reasons why it is the best approach for your situation. It is not in good shape, so I am wanting to gut it completely down to its metal shell and studs and remodel the inside completely. The total difference in cost to build your house with 2x6 exterior construction vs 2x4 is $2,149.90. Does water back up anywhere? Your IP: Walls. Become a GBA Prime member and get full access to GBA articles, enyclopedia, videos, CAD library, and more. It originally referred to clapboard oak staves used to make barrels. I am not sure what to look at to see if there is any problems and the reviews on fleetwood is less than good. JonaI live in a 1978 double wide, not sure the make and model, I wanted to hang a swing in my sons room and was wondering if there should be studs or something in the ceiling to hang it from or if it would be a good idea, the swing is a cacoon like swing from IKEA. Over time the logs got farther and farther apart and became known as posts. I suspect getting a watertight seal using the approach you describe takes some skill and attention to detail. And if the last twenty years are any indication of what the next twenty are going to be like hold on to your hats. The homes were moved by teams of horses. That low caps a nine-month decline in lumber prices . Electrical also runs wire from ceiling outlets, fans, bathroom vents, etc. You will have to have a local A/C person take a look at it to tell you what you are dealing with. Everyone who has done home renovation or repair projects knows that. From the same source, mobile home "is the term used for manufactured homes produced prior to June 15, 1976, when the HUD Code went into effect." [2] When stretched, the second end is fastened down and then the sides are folded over, caulked and stapled. Is this proper from factory?PaulI doubt that any factory installed A/C would have lasted this long. I appreciate your quick responses. I refer, Read More Finding Competent Repair HelpContinue, The dealer is responsible for any promises the salesman made that were beyond what the factory provides. In the 1950s the board sheathing began to be replaced with plywood. Diagonal bracing kept the frames from falling over. No manufacturer would pay for even an extra foot of drain line. Look really carefully around the water faucets in the tub to see if there is any sign they might be leaking and letting water run behind the wall. The financing is easier, buyers appreciate quality work, etc.Good luckTiaThank you for your answer. In addition the walls rest on the very end of the outriggers so weight their puts the maximum stress (leverage) onto the support system. (if you get snow). As I was researching this project I ran across a similar study on a 2,350 sq/ft house with similar details and the author came up with a total cost increase of $1,951.56 or $.83 per sq/ft of living space. Boring, but true. The answer to your question varies from location to location. There is even an insulating sheathing available that provides shear resistance. Working in construction for years I am able, but have no experience with mobiles. Not much changed until spray foams became popular in the 1990s. I want to move the stove to the middle of the kitchen and build an island around it. The nails allowed us to get rid of complex joinery no more mortise and tenon and allow relatively unskilled folks to nail together mass produced small sticks (2x4s and 2x6s and 2x8s) spaced closely together in a light frame. $1.95 sq/ft- 2x4 construction, 1 exterior foam board and R-13 cavity. Then, if the house is getting a shingle roof, plywood or OSB decking is nailed over the trusses. Is the main electrical panel, done by the factory, at fault, did the AC installer make a mistake, etc. With a cord attached you can pull the trap out and avoid a week or two of really unpleasant aroma.Paul. TomPaul,I hope youre still around. Also was there a time when brick foundation walls were in general use or is that also variable? The interior walls are pre-assembled, with paneling on only one side so the inside is accessible to electrical. They can pull the trap a long way before they stop moving. Its surface rusting in spots and a couple of the seams are leaking. Warranty repairs require huge amounts of travel time, and things that would have been simple to fix during construction are much more difficult to handle. Was mostly effective with the sheetrock sage , but still had variations with the differences with the ceiling trusses. herberton railway tunnel. We are trying to roughly figure out what a 1971 Safeway 48x24ft trailer weighs empty. It will open a new window and you will have to scroll down to see the article. suaziz.com 2021. Performance & security by Cloudflare. Mobile home and manufactured home walls are constructed with 24 wall studs. The price of nails fell so fast that by the 1850s nails cost less in Chicago than the tax on European nails. The owner of the insulation company, who is also a builder, notes that the cost to extend doors and windows to accommodate a 2x6 wall is substantial because everything that is standard is made for 2x4. While all of this weatherboard, clapboard and sheathing evolution was going on things were also happening with the other stuff used as infill between the posts and staves. Developed in the late 1970s, OSB is made of rectangular wood strands glued and pressed together. Im a little worried that the glue will not last long and assuming this is how all the ceilings were put together.PaulHi Ashley,I wouldnt worry about it.They build the walls & and ceilings on a large jig that means the assembler just lays the wood in the marked places and nails/screws them together. 1936-1953 produced a ton of beautiful mobile homes. Im not sure I am visualizing your layout correctly, but things like seats are normally installed last and have no load bearing or sturctural importance.Janet SteuerI bought a 1969 Detroiter, 12 x 65 with a 12 x 50 addition on it.. a friend of mine put 6x6s in the entry between living room and addition room. Based on these standards, a 6x6-inch nominal lumber board is actually 5 x 5 inches. Trusses are nailed to perimeter 2 x 4s and held in place by wood strips at the centerline and at a couple of other places. I have never seen any outside of the factory.Have you taken a pencil to the numbers for the work you plan? Modular Home 1992-1996 - 1248 sq. OSB, even thin sheets, has to be substantially heavier than metal.Take a look at this link An Inexpensive Metal Roof You Can Install Yourself. Construction was financed with a $101,250 Federal Emergency Administration grant and a voter-approved $137,000 bond issue, approved by 70% of the electorate. JamieI have a Palm Harbor 2004 32X80. On June 15, 1976, HUD established construction and safety standards for mobile homes because they were becoming widely-used as permanent housing. thanks HenryPaulHi Henry,All links seem to point the HUD which is such an enormous organization I got lost trying to find anything useful. $1.00 sq/ft- Insulate with R-21 fibrous material. 110 sheets. Disappointed about the 2 vertical supports from the ceiling to the roof about 30 from the outside will More fink supports in the trusses would be stronger.After a strong storm I had replaced the single sheet of sheet metal roof (actually strips crimped together) with 26 gauge -5 rib metal. There are no doubt multiple ways to meet the standard, none of which the insurance company is qualified to evaluate. Where I get concerned is when the weight is concentrated and near the outside walls.Reply.Leslie FayHey Paul! For any nominal lumber size up to 6 inches, the dimensional size is inch smaller. So if you see such framing and are wondering how it passed, they probably also used blue insulation on the outside, or something else to achieve r20. I have located where one of the center beams runs and will locate the safe over the beam near the middle of the trailor. Thanks for your time and your advice! If you have lots of wood available to you, why use wattle-and-daub infill? Why cant we build with 2x4? Polyurethane spray foam insulation was considered one of the greatest advancements in home insulation. However, this is a very temporary solution because the dealers or customers are going to find these problems on the lot or after it has been set. I removed date stamps because most of the information doesnt change much.I wouldnt expect any problems unless you have a particle board subfloor that has had water damage in the past. One more question for Paul: can we cut off the tongue and pull out the bench seat existing?PaulHi Alison,Cutting off the tongue shouldnt be a problem. Thanks for the opportunity to respond.PaulPlugging the ends would keep wasps from making nests there, but the heat might do that anyhow. Others say that their 2x4 walls have the same insulation value as the 2x6's, as some builders of the 2x6 walls don't put enough insulation in them. If you dont have a tester of some kind bring a small lamp with you and check EVERY outlet with it. There was also a 7 foot hole cut into the side of the mobile home for an addition that is no longer usable. We have a roof built over our trailer (and existing addition alongside); I want to open up between the trailer and the addition.