Thank you Karen for this intriguing insight. Thanks again. From all the above it should be evident that the idea was NOT first expressed by Grantland Rice. window.csa("Events")("setEntity", { I have been researching two knights sparing and the J B Downing poem, Playing the game. Scores against our name. All suggestions welcome. Through Rice's eyes we behold such sports as bicycle racing, boxing, golf, baseball, football, and tennis as they were played before 1950. And, kid, cut out this fancy stuff go in there, low and hard; How far away the goal posts are that called us to the play. Meanwhile, another helpful reader, Mr. Robert Kelley kindly added this comment: May I enter the discussion on who wrote those final lines of Rices epic poem. interestingly this source says: Taylor Spink Award posthumously in 1966 from the Baseball Writers Association of America for meritorious contributions to baseball writing. These are only aliases. They formed the crest of the South Bend cyclone before which another fighting Army football team was swept over the precipice at the Polo Grounds yesterday afternoon as 55,000 spectators peered down on the bewildering panorama spread on the green plain below.. the stands are bare, the park is still. So sorry, Paul! And the courage to fight till youve won, Keep Coming Back Thank you. Is the fact that you stood the test. Pau l it is in a book written by Tom Okker about his early tennis career. Rices style has been criticized as schmaltzy and overly sentimental, even by some of his contemporaries. Its hard to imagine anyone in this racket more universally beloved, too. }); And news writers. The wise old coach, Experience, came up and spoke to him. var ue_mid = "A1PQBFHBHS6YH1"; In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. For when that one great scorer comes to mark against your name This verse was at the head of a Red Smith sports column in the New York TIMES in the 1960s-70s era when the lowly NY Giants ALMOST upset the mighty Baltimore Colts with Johnny Unitas, The Colts were a twenty-point favorite with the odds-makers, but the final score came up something like 22 to 19 Colts, so Red Smith was praising the Giants. In fact it is worth reading the comments others have made over the years. That must have been interesting! Many thanks ~ Paul (author of Great Moments Of Sportsmanship). When Bill woke up his scalp hung loose and knots adorned his head. Tell a coach or teacher. Christmas 1927" With the Grantland Rice name in this thread, I thought I would throw this curveball (hahahahaha )Lee Mero married Kathryn Rice in 1920!!! the player files out through the gate. HE MARKS NOT THAT YOU WON OR LOST A rent collector tackled him and threw him for a loss. Thank you so much for this. I wish you well and thank you for your comment. Here is a different, yet beautiful, overlapping intriguing version of the poem written in 1925 by JB Downie in Minneapolis, USA, kindly sent into us by Peggy Legrande. He also provided monthly Grantland Rice Sportlights as part of Paramount newsreels from 1925 to 1954. Enter your email address below and we will email you new posts: Portuguese Players Shake Englishmans Hand After He Scores, Silence was broken by a dog barking outside the packed stadium, Paris the perfect setting for reunion of Invincible Lions, Not That You Won or Lost but at Great Moments of Sportsmanship, http://www.library.vanderbilt.edu/speccol/research/guides/bios.shtml, Not That You Won or Lost but Great Moments Of Sportsmanship, http://www.greatmomentsofsportsmanship.com/spread-the-moments/, Not That You Won or Lost but | Great Moments Of Sportsmanship, New Year Old Poem Great Sport | Great Moments Of Sportsmanship, Bush League or Little League? He was my daddys hero, basically.. "https:" : "http:") + Regards, Paul. He knows some are asking this question: If all the Confederate monuments and tributes are wiped out, at what point are the Jefferson or George Washington monuments founding fathers but also slave owners in jeopardy? Hilarious stuff Dave many thanks. I Never Played the Game Howard Cosell with Peter Bonventre 10. It is gold leaf with a picture of two dueling horses with men in coats of armor. Two of these poems I cannot find anywhere..It looks like Mr. Delong was editing for someone. url = "https://s.gr-assets.com/assets/mobile/phone_hd_images-2b89833762f600506d44865a33582d11.css"; In 1925 The Buzza Company published the above poem entitled Playing the Game by J. And more than all, when you are thrown or tumbled with a crack, Mr. Rice knew that it's important to play fairly and that it's important to be a good sport. 25 comments Since the original 2008 post/article http://tinyurl.com/6zo7fvac Until at last above the din you hear this sentence spilled: gads.src = (useSSL ? Rice was posthumously awarded the 1966 J. G. Taylor Spink Award by the Baseball Writers' Association of America. For when the One Great Scorer comes to write against your name He writes not tat you won or lost But how you played the game. the bugle rolled the reveille. This is great!!!! A framed version of the ornate graphics version of the verse used to hang on the wall in my parents bedroom in Dubin, way back in the 60s. The name Newbolt is below the poem and the illustrator is at bottom left by Alan Tabor of Manchester. Through Rice's eyes we behold such sports as bicycle racing, boxing, golf, baseball, football, and tennis as they were played before 1950. In the book Juiced, Jose says "Steroids used correctly, will not only make you stronger and sexier, they will also make you healthier. Also feel free to use the poster it may inspire others! In todays dollars, thats about $1.5 million. window.Mobvious.device_type = 'mobile'; There are lines like this, from his book, amid the celebration of Owens and what he achieved: During that first week of August 1936, the Berlin weather was cold and rainy hardly the weather that Owens would have chosen, for Negroes generally function best in intense heat., Its a jarring utterance of an ugly stereotype, not unlike this line from a chapter on Jim Thorpe: The Indian is a great natural athlete. On waking up, hed ask, Who drove that truck across my face?. Perhaps you might post the full poem in an other comment as it sounds different to my poem. [2] His grandfather Major H. W. Rice was a Confederate veteran of the Civil War. What pictures he paints with words and all layered with wisdom too. I first heard the line spoken when watching the movie: Bobby Jones: Stroke of Genius. TO WRITE AGAINST YOUR NAME stylesheet.rel = "stylesheet"; You can download this as a poster by clicking on it or print it out and post it onto a notice board, or a dressing room. That standard redeems Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, James Madison and others like them because although they believed and did horrific and inhumane things, they defended the system that led to the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments, the Civil Rights Act, womens suffrage and so on. I havent even thought about it, (Owens) said. And then to find this site and to read about the origin of the linesimply remarkable. q("i", arguments) They had two extra men to ring the ambulance alarm. Would you know of the full source where and when it was first published etc.? After taking early jobs with the Atlanta Journal and the Cleveland News, he later became a sportswriter for the Nashville Tennessean. I didnt bother about it one way or another.. And If You Play Golf You're My Friend Harvey Penick with Bud Shrake . My father who was a writer at the Nashville Banner also told me about what a great writer Grantland Rice was. So were the athletes and the actors and the fans who came to cheer them. Wonderful stuff. Please keep adding comments. And thats where Grantland Rice, in todays terms, gets complicated. ODonnell perhaps his people were from Donegal in Ireland? But how we played the game. RICE, Grantland ( b. } And when they stop you with a thud or halt you with a crack, var ue_t0=window.ue_t0||+new Date(); Rices 1924 account of Notre Dames win over Army in New York starts with the most famous paragraph in sports, before or since. How did you find this? She is now passing this on to her own grandson. Hard to say. https://greatmomentsofsportsmanship.com/not-that-you-won-or-lost-but/ July 2009 With your permission Ill add it to this post plus post it on our facebook page etc. a[a9]._Q.push([c, r]) Uruguay wow! Bill put on steam and dashed into the thickest of the pile; Previous. But he was on his way to becoming a one-man industry movie reels, nationally syndicated columns and play by play for the first radio broadcast of a World Series game and would get a raise to $52,000 from the New York Tribune in 1925. I wonder if there is some connection there. Thank you for the correction. Is keep on bucking Failure till youve worn the piker out!. The paper behind appears to be in pristine condition. To make your eternal bed, for(var i=0; i